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Where we live anytime you mention that you go to raves they think you are a a druggie....or that I only go to get high on drugs or whatever. I hope that with all this positive and rational thinking on how we can improve the image of the rave scene does change it for the better so we can spread the love even farther.

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Default 04-15-08, 07:38 PM

amen jareblue preach the good word.


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Definitely well put
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Where we live anytime you mention that you go to raves they think you are a a druggie....or that I only go to get high on drugs or whatever. I hope that with all this positive and rational thinking on how we can improve the image of the rave scene does change it for the better so we can spread the love even farther.

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Default 05-03-08, 05:02 AM

Well said. Ive been in this scene the better part of the last 18 years. Ive seen good partys get shut down cause of 2 or 3 idiots.
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i have already posted this in another thread, but it's something i'd like you all to read and discuss.. i'm sticking this temporarily cuz i think it's important for this site, and for our entire culture.. please take the time to read..


there have been some small edits to the gxg rules.. please take a moment to review them.. this is specifically in reference to drugs..

officially we do not condone the distribution or even suggestion of buying/selling/hookin someone up on this site.. period.. what is allowed is the sharing of information so that others may make informed personal decisions about their choice 2 use or not.. sharing of personal experience is quite allowable in this scenario..

personally, i am a supporter of responsible use, but i do feel it is becoming entirely too casual a topic here on genxglow.. i think you all understand that we are demonized by drug culture.. yes, it is, and probably always will be a part of our scene.. but it's only a part.. rave culture is not about drugs.. rave culture is about MUSIC!! specifically electronic dance music.. if all we did was dance, there'd probly never be a bust.. even when we "borrow" a space..

the reason we get shut down time and again is because law enforcement agencies know there are going to be drugs.. this is partially due to the fact that we all bloody talk about it too much.. and the occasional lunatic like the guy in colorado who dropped 10 hits of acid and brutally murdered his girlfriend pretty much destroys us all.. nevermind the thousands of us who wouldn't hurt a fly, the one who did did it in a big way and it's damn near impossible to recover form something like that..

the point to all of this, my friends--and i don't say 'friends' casually.. i love the culture, the scene, and all you awesome ravers in it and, given the opportunity would personally make friends with every one of you--is: BE RESPONSIBLE!! keep your heads about you.. this includes not only use, but the information you choose to share about that use.. yes, share your experiences.. but don't let this be about the drugs because it isn't!! drugs enhance, they do not create..

so i'm going to ask, pesonally, that you all (including me) check yoursleves before you post up drug talk.. is it relevant to the situation?? will it help someone else make an informed decision?? or are you just shootin your yap about what you took or are gonna get?? use your head's my friends.. think responsibly.. be smart.. ok??

one more thing, you will probably notice that i am fairly open about pot.. i am a supporter of legalization.. i believe that alcohol is significantly more damaging than marijuana will ever be and we have as much right to the RESPONSIBLE use of marijuana as alcohol.. i also believe this is a fight we can win.. we will not win when it comes to any schedule 1 narcotic.. acid, heroin, coke, meth, etc, and yes, ecstacy.. as such, just please be careful when you discuss use.. and make NO offer to give or sell or ask for help in finding any substance on any public forum..

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We should have repercussion's for members who even talk about that shit on this site it's bad for everyone!!!!
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Default 05-03-08, 06:37 PM

I don't think that's necessary - it feels too much like censorship to me - but I do think the change in policy and the reminder to all of us to be mindful of what we say is having a positive impact on the site and discussions.


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I hope that with all this positive and rational thinking on how we can improve the image of the rave scene does change it for the better so we can spread the love even farther.
Thank you Jareblue for starting this topic. The drug talk is one thing that has seriously limited my use of this board. Our beautiful scene has already made a bad name for itself due to some folks, (ravers, bad promoters,drug dealers...) that have irresponsible tendencies. It is our responsibility as ravers to maintain the integrity and to improve the image of the scene. Talking about how f*cked up you were at some party on a public forum that can be found by any search engine does not improve our image. Being a GenX Newb I've not voiced this opinion until now but I am very glad that I'm not the only one who feels this way.

And Ukeyouee, some boards like Raversonly and Hullabalooo, for example, do have very strict consequences for drug talk and not just distribution, but any talk of drugs at all. I believe that you get one warning and then on the second offense your account is terminated. This is a wonderful policy and I would like to suggest that Genxglow implement it also.


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I think the drug issue might need to be brought up again in our next staff meeting.


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Default 05-05-08, 08:19 PM

I'm going to clarify my stance on this a little bit. I don't agree that there should be blanket consequences for discussing drugs. There are a number of us, myself included, that have had abuse issues with drugs/alcohol. If I can discuss that with someone and help to facilitate an understanding of how that has impacted my life, potentially giving them different information than they may have had previously, then I'm all over that. When we're talking about the "I got some good stuff from this guy" kinds of things, then yes, by all means, there should be consequences.

That said - if we are going to have a policy regarding drug discussion, do we want to incorporate alcohol into that policy as well? While it is a legal drug for many of the members of this site, there are a lot of underage members as well...and alcohol is every bit as dangerous as anything else out there.

I realize that there would be monitoring issues and enforcement issues with this, but I wanted to throw that thought out there and see what people think.

Thanks for throwing your ideas out there, Brian - you made me clarify my opinions on the topic. Cheers!


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