[Tempmentive]

Okay, I'm seeing a lot of confusion and disagreements between many people on here about drugs, specifically MDMA and related substances. The problem, is that most people who use this drug think they know everything there is to know about it, when in reality even the scientists studying it really still have no idea how or why it does what it does... All they know, is that it releases serotonin and can cause damage due to specific circumstances, and how to prevent it.

The damage many of you are refering to is called 'Neurotoxicity'. The following document is VERY long, but I strongly urge you read it! Even if you think you are all knowledgable in the area... I found that I was sadly mistakin and learned a LOT from the one or two hours I spent reading the following. This document is as up to date as possible about everything regarding what is and isn't known about what ecstasy does and does not do to your brain. It does not however cover what it may or may not do to other organs of your body, or affects of using it with other substances.

http://thedea.org/neurotoxicity.html

Be sure to read about "preloading" as well, which briefly goes over some vitamins which can help prevent this damage with MDMA and other drugs.

Additionally, many people have seen this already, but if you have yet to familiarize yourself with the history of the drug, check out this Peter Jennings report called "Ecstasy Rising" which I found VERY usefull. (The website above also has great information about the US history regarding the substance, etc)

Peter Jennings - Ecstasy Rising

I havn't checked this next site out too much yet but I plan to pick through it soon. A friend referenced me to it and what I have viewed has also been very helpfull. It's not just about MDMA, but contains information about just about every active substance you could conceive haha.

http://www.bluelight.ru/

Hope this helps and educates someone who chooses to use. Be safe, responsible, and PLEASE educate yourself before consuming ANY substance... About both during and after affects, short and long term, vitamins, and know what to expect while on the drug so you don't flip out.

PLURR

[ukeyouee]

Originally Posted by UnhOlY

http://thedea.org/neurotoxicity.html

I would like to clarify that although the name of this site has the letters DEA in it, it is not in any way affiliated with the Drug enforcement Agency of the US Government.

Originally Posted by UnhOlY

Be sure to read about "preloading" as well, which briefly goes over some vitamins which can help prevent this damage with MDMA and other drugs.

There has been a lot of discussion on this topic on this site. The science kids can give you a better breakdown of the potential risks of this, but high doses of anything can mess with your body's chemistry, even things like water.

Originally Posted by UnhOlY

Additionally, many people have seen this already, but if you have yet to familiarize yourself with the history of the drug, check out this Peter Jennings report called "Ecstasy Rising" which I found VERY usefull. (The website above also has great information about the US history regarding the substance, etc)

Peter Jennings - Ecstasy Rising

We have a whole thread about this specific video - here it is.

Originally Posted by UnhOlY

I havn't checked this next site out too much yet but I plan to pick through it soon. A friend referenced me to it and what I have viewed has also been very helpfull. It's not just about MDMA, but contains information about just about every active substance you could conceive haha.

http://www.bluelight.ru/

Hope this helps and educates someone who chooses to use. Be safe, responsible, and PLEASE educate yourself before consuming ANY substance... About both during and after affects, short and long term, vitamins, and know what to expect while on the drug so you don't flip out.

PLURR

I went and looked through the bluelight site a bit, and it looks legit - thanks for the new site to check out:-). Other places to look for information are www.erowid.com , www.pillreports.com , and www.dancesafe.org.

Yay for the advocation of safety and responsibility! <respect!>

[glowing fool]

what she ^ said. respect

[Tempmentive]

Thx, respect wasn't what I was going for however much appreciated lol

www.erowid.com , www.pillreports.com , and www.dancesafe.org.

I knew about pillreports I'll have to check out the others however thx! The problem with pillreports which anyone who uses it knows, most reports don't have chemical tests and lets face it only very frequent user's who have done it all can pop a pill and know exactly whats in it and even they are mistakin. I don't personally trust the site, but it CAN (and does) help when deciding for or against a specific ecstasy tab.

What gets me is when people post things like "These pills suck! They made me lazy! I enjoy getting fucked up..." and yea you know where I'm going The good pills don't make you speedy... lol *sigh* I miss the Orange Buddhas that were floating around my area for a while =) My favorite out of anything so far.

[whenyournex2me]

thanks for posting this... im a have to read it later though, im driving to somewhere i dont know where... but somewhere...

respect earned....

[SoLoR6]

Very Nice post ..... and thank you.

[Kythos]

true story.


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Cannabis has been proven to help reduce caner and tumor growths. not a cure, but someday... maybe...

[speedy]

Neurotoxicity has been slowed or stopped in some studies, through the use of prozac, in animal trials.

No word on human tests though.

[Tempmentive]

It can be bad to take prozac... And yes, it is used to block receptors, I forget exactly what... Still, I would not recommend to do that to anyone. Plz read the document above, PLZ! You will thank me afterwards!! I PROMISE!

What you need are Antioxidants, hence: Vitamin C + E. (E is fat solable and reaches into the brain where C fails to reach, hence E is more important however use them together)

To anyone else, plz don't make anymore claims about what to and not to use with ecstasy (ESPECIALLY IF YOU HEARD IT FROM SOMEONE ELSE,) until you have read that document on Neurotoxicity! Like I said, many people find they are sadly mistakin about a great many things. It discusses both true and false knowledge about these subjects and it probably contains something about what you are going to say. JUST READ IT! DO IT! NOWWWWWW!

[Thehappening]

urgh, like someone said. there is a risk anytime you put anything into your body, whether it is synthetic, natural, or whatever. This includes FDA approved drugs. Everything has a chemical composition.

Prescription drugs undergo 10 to 11 years of evaluation before its approved for prescription use for human consumption by the public. MDMA has been around longer than that and has a lot less issues than other approved prescription drugs.