beatmatching is hard..

**whenyournex2me** · 02-26-08, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jareblue

yea yea.. i know it doesn't need 2 b loud.. good headphones = it doesn't have 2 be loud, just isolate what ur hearing.. that's what i was trying 2 get across.. i need 2 practice sooo bad but once again i can't set up.. grrrr..

yep thats right! you do need good seperation. i stick with the sony 500's.

**jareblue** · 02-26-08, 06:19 PM

i've got sony 7506 which r great studio cans, but idk how good they would b 2 play out with.. not that i need 2 worry about that 4 quite some time..

Chu-(E) · 02-26-08, 06:28 PM

I use these cool litle iPod player, all you need is 2 iPods and you mix it right on. Its one really smart mixer.

**whenyournex2me** · 02-27-08, 10:07 PM

im still inthe stone age as far as mixing is concerned. i only have vinyls.... to mix and i ahd a cdj, but got rid of it. never used ableton to mix live or mp3's i need to step it up ey?

huntertrueblu · 02-28-08, 11:32 AM

hey, i downloaded this program called virtual dj, of course it cant compare to real tables, but think it will help me get down some of my skills before hand? BTW djing is much more... involved, then i had realized, as far as loops and sampling on the fly. i tip my hat to you REAL dj's haha! maybe one day ill host a rave of my own..... dont worry ull all be invited!

**whenyournex2me** · 02-28-08, 03:13 PM

yes , i think it will help you construct the mixes adn thats important! knowing the songs you have like the back you hands....

only now and recently i can mix every single record i have together.... even from different genre's

thats usually the issues after learing to beatmix... or beatmatching and being able to ride the mix forever...

like ellaskins says,,, practice and enjoy!

huntertrueblu · 02-29-08, 02:10 AM

what im messing aroun d with now, is using some old beatles songs, and mixing em with trance songs. im having a reaaaaly hard time matching the tracks.... any tips? i think the beatles temp my change through out the song..... :/

**whenyournex2me** · 03-03-08, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by huntertrueblu

what im messing aroun d with now, is using some old beatles songs, and mixing em with trance songs. im having a reaaaaly hard time matching the tracks.... any tips? i think the beatles temp my change through out the song..... :/

if i were to try this, id do this on a computer.... so i can control tempo, nad pitch.... but thats remixing...

to blend them together is hard, matching beats with real drums is hard! they arent exactly on time, the tempo and pitch changes, and the diversity between trance and old classic rock is a little too much for me. althgouh, if you were to do this digitally, it is possible to get it to sound good. imo

huntertrueblu · 03-03-08, 03:53 AM

Well, i heard a trance/bob marley fusion and i said to myself "hey you dont have to be limited to electronica with your stuff!" and yeah it IS more remixing, i just tried 2 do it on the fly haha.

Ablist One · 03-03-08, 06:26 AM

ive been djing for ten years and i cant help but impart some things that will help you along quickly:

1. imagine beatmatching as two cars on the interstate. if one is driving 50 and the other 65 mph, obviously the 65 car will pass the other. for a second, they will be beside each other then be apart again. you can hear this sometimes when the records come together and sound great and you think "oh hey i got it" but when they drift apart, you realize what happened. the pitch control on the turntable is like the gas pedal; if you slowly speed up or slow down just right, eventually the two cars/turntables will be right beside each other. pinching the record does not change anything (just like tapping quickly on the gas doesnt change anything), you have to change the actual overall speed.

2. while computers & cdj's are great, everything like that is built around how turntables work. you cant really understand what the programs are built for unless you learn how to mix on turntables first. once you get the idea on turntables, you will learn programs and cdj's ten times faster. i mainly use cdj's now, but i put in years and years of work on turntables first, and there are still things that simply cannot be done on a computer!

3. any songs you want to use that are by a band of any kind will not be reliable for mixing. if the sounds on the recording are made by humans playing instruments live, human error is a factor and every note will be a different timing. electronic music, even hiphop, is built on exact timing. you can mix an electronically made song with a performed song but keep in mind, it will keep falling off track no matter how perfect you are matching the beat.

4. there are two ways to go with equipment: crap quality thats cheap, or great quality thats expensive. usually for first time buyers, i recommend the crap stuff because 1. if you dont stick with it, you didnt lose that much money (lots of people give up on it, dont feel bad; the good stuff costs thousands of dollars and thats a big investment) and 2. learning your skills on crap equipment will make you that much better when you eventually get the good stuff. on the other hand, if you (honestly) know that you are going to be a dj no matter what anybody says, or how hard it is or how bad you are at the start, then go for the good stuff. it will take awhile to get the cash but man it will be awesome. the only problem is when you have to play on crappier quality stuff, you will feel a serious difference and your djing may not be as good. for cheap stuff, go numark, denon and stanton. for the expensive stuff, go technics, pioneer and ortofon.