[whenyournex2me]

this is important for me to discuss, being i tend have poor habbits....

quality of a mixer:

i have a poor quality mixer. the behringer djx700 to be exact. the last mix i listen to over and over is the electricity breaks set. and on my mp3 player, i can here some differences in level, when the bass line and bass hits disapear. adn the mids nad highs get louder, then when a bass hit comes in, the mids and highs get distorted and sound mushed.... they lower in level, and it sounds bad. the effects i have on the mixer i used a couple times. and i must ask, is it better to record without using effects in general, or just when using that mixer, cause they sound like crap in mp3 format on my mp3 player....

or is it my mp3 player. on my laptop i can hear some of symptons im talking about here, but i hear more so on my mp3 player.

im using a booth output to record rather than the tape out from my mixer. reason why is i can control the level on my mixer as well as the program.

is there gonna be a difference in quality of sound between the tape or booth outs in my mixer?



over mixing:

i noticed as well as others have noticed i tend to have done some overmixing, and i agree.

but i want the track to come in at a certain place, or i want them to meet at a certain place. you know when one ends and a new verse begins on the other record.... so how can i get to balance this out? is the quality of my mixer effecting this? i mean the cutoff of my eq controls.... i dont jsut have both basses up, all the time,,, but rather one is playing, and one im bring in while taking the other one out,,,, till i get to a point to cease the first tacks bass.... i think i can hear it, when i dont want to... but in my headphones it sounds different than whats recorded... why is this...?

this is how i think a song is built, there is an intro, adn a begining, then different verses, u and a break and then up and a break, then an outtro,...

i want to keep a flow going with out, well, having to let a record play out almost all the way, before i bring the mixing record in,,, so so at the outtro i mix with an intro.... and there is jsut bordem.... i want to keep the energy up, maybe thats why i over mix.

how do you mix? and how can you tell if your overmixing... when cueing the track? is it ok to let them play out some more.... and then build back up the energy of the second track.... or a lil bit of both?


i know there are different ways to mix different genres.... so, beging with trance for myself, and i still mix the same way for breaks,,,, im blending hte tracks together, rather than cutting parts of the track out while coming in with the second. this is what i need practice at i think.... along with many other things. but


give me some of your thoughts..... mxing trance, breaks, or house. do you usually mix them differently?

and how do you mix the different genres? im looking for positive constructive, critisizm.... so i may become smoother in my transitions....

cause what i think is ok, may not sound soo good. thanks

sorry for the bllaa blaab b laaa im hungry plur

[DJ_Eezergud]

Ok foist about the quality of your mixer..i to have a behringer tho its a 626 and i dont use it at allll anymore heh..they really are terrible mixers and leveling the volume on them, at least i have found, is hard, there gain knobs are wayy inaccurate and ya leveling just sucks with a behringer, to make matters worse there upfaders are completely useless as are the low mid and high range knobs. it may help you *certainly with sound quality as well* to get a better mixer..as far as your bass hits are concerned tho that may be part of the problem but also when you get two bass hits perfectly in sync they will cancel each other out a bit..not sure if thats what yer talking about buuuut ya.
and as far as yer mixing skill goes. i to started off on trance, and i did some time with funky breaks, the best way ive found to mix breaks is a quick cut from song to song *this varies over different tracks sometimes you can do a long fade but my style of breaks is more of a cut*
annywhoo as far as your tracks getting together at the right time..heres a helpful tidbit, lets say to make it simple, that you want the synth line from at 8 bars into track 1 to meet up with the bass line 4 bars into track 2, the best way to do this is to count ahead 4 bars on track one, the way i count is 4 bars at once (the fastest way to count* so do this 1 1 2 3, 2 1 2 3 , 3 1 2 3, 4 1 2 3, everyime you hear a bass it and then start mtixing track 1 in on the next 1 *after 4 1 2 3, it goes back to one*
*edit* forgot to metion incase that was confusing, track 2 was the one playing over the live speakers and track 1 was the one that your cueing up
hope thats not all to confusing and hope it helps a bit yo

[whenyournex2me]

Originally Posted by Nappy615

some please explain something....

as far as i know, a mix is a bunch of songs that were already produced by some artist, and a dj puts them all on one cd, and mixes it into one big, like....set? or something? im confused some one explain what mixes are and shit so i know...

sorry im retarded i just one day hope to get into this stuff, djing mixing and maybe producing

you are not retared.
and yes a producer creates the music. not to say some djs dont make their own, but a dj will mix somgs together, and creat a set. or remix a track to make a different version of that original song....

curiousity will lead you, be curious and ask. plur

[DJ WALDO]

Originally Posted by DJ_Eezergud

Ok foist about the quality of your mixer..i to have a behringer tho its a 626 and i dont use it at allll anymore heh..they really are terrible mixers and leveling the volume on them, at least i have found, is hard, there gain knobs are wayy inaccurate and ya leveling just sucks with a behringer, to make matters worse there upfaders are completely useless as are the low mid and high range knobs. it may help you *certainly with sound quality as well* to get a better mixer..as far as your bass hits are concerned tho that may be part of the problem but also when you get two bass hits perfectly in sync they will cancel each other out a bit..not sure if thats what yer talking about buuuut ya.
and as far as yer mixing skill goes. i to started off on trance, and i did some time with funky breaks, the best way ive found to mix breaks is a quick cut from song to song *this varies over different tracks sometimes you can do a long fade but my style of breaks is more of a cut*
annywhoo as far as your tracks getting together at the right time..heres a helpful tidbit, lets say to make it simple, that you want the synth line from at 8 bars into track 1 to meet up with the bass line 4 bars into track 2, the best way to do this is to count ahead 4 bars on track one, the way i count is 4 bars at once (the fastest way to count* so do this 1 1 2 3, 2 1 2 3 , 3 1 2 3, 4 1 2 3, everyime you hear a bass it and then start mtixing track 1 in on the next 1 *after 4 1 2 3, it goes back to one*
*edit* forgot to metion incase that was confusing, track 2 was the one playing over the live speakers and track 1 was the one that your cueing up
hope thats not all to confusing and hope it helps a bit yo

That is too confuzing. Dude...just learn to count measures and bar and then begin to learn the "art of mixing". thats my advise

[whenyournex2me]

Originally Posted by DJ_Eezergud

Ok foist about the quality of your mixer..i to have a behringer tho its a 626 and i dont use it at allll anymore heh..they really are terrible mixers and leveling the volume on them, at least i have found, is hard, there gain knobs are wayy inaccurate and ya leveling just sucks with a behringer, to make matters worse there upfaders are completely useless as are the low mid and high range knobs. it may help you *certainly with sound quality as well* to get a better mixer..as far as your bass hits are concerned tho that may be part of the problem but also when you get two bass hits perfectly in sync they will cancel each other out a bit..not sure if thats what yer talking about buuuut ya.
and as far as yer mixing skill goes. i to started off on trance, and i did some time with funky breaks, the best way ive found to mix breaks is a quick cut from song to song *this varies over different tracks sometimes you can do a long fade but my style of breaks is more of a cut*
annywhoo as far as your tracks getting together at the right time..heres a helpful tidbit, lets say to make it simple, that you want the synth line from at 8 bars into track 1 to meet up with the bass line 4 bars into track 2, the best way to do this is to count ahead 4 bars on track one, the way i count is 4 bars at once (the fastest way to count* so do this 1 1 2 3, 2 1 2 3 , 3 1 2 3, 4 1 2 3, everyime you hear a bass it and then start mtixing track 1 in on the next 1 *after 4 1 2 3, it goes back to one*
*edit* forgot to metion incase that was confusing, track 2 was the one playing over the live speakers and track 1 was the one that your cueing up
hope thats not all to confusing and hope it helps a bit yo

it does help, i do understand at first with new tracks im nto fimilar with i do count the beats and bars, but after time, of me mixing 5 other tracks with one record, to see what goes good with it, and how they may go together, i will remember the points i want to cue and mix. thus leavign me not havign to count.

iknow that if you play two same records, at hte same speed it will phase one song out. and thats cause phasing.... and u can tell by a lil hissing sound, sounds like a wash,,,, it changes pitch a little, but thats when you have them exactly at the same seeds.

adn i cant hear the bass getting cut out, when i get the speeds exact, i try to saty a little bit off, so the bass is a lil stronger, rather than having them at that phasing point.

i will try to keep mixing that same set,,, but more cutting on the tracks.
i like the set and think it could go somehwere, thuogh im sure there are points i need to improve or could use another track to mix in. but hey, thats the art of it i think.

i sigh, because i think it mostly means i need to jsut practice more... and keep mixing other records together...

i know if i use a digital platform of mixing, via pc, i wont have to worry about beatmatching and could focus on where the mixing points are...


over all i think i want to just keep the flow, and keep the energy going, rather than being able to tell thats another track he just mixed in. i want smooth and effortless transitions. i know it easier for me to blend trance or house, than breaks some dnb. although i have to put the time in to learn this. how to mix this song with that one, and the next track me be a lil different in ways of mixing it in.

im sure if used a drum machine it could make my mixing a lil easier, and my transitions smoother, but i really want to learn how to do this with the vinyls first.

does anyone else have thoughts to this as well? please keep em coming. i love hearing what you all think. it does help me understand from your point of view but also, im not getting tutord, im learning my practice. and its slow. but im passionate about the music and i wont give up.

[DJ_Eezergud]

Originally Posted by DJ WALDO

That is too confuzing. Dude...just learn to count measures and bar and then begin to learn the "art of mixing". thats my advise

haha my bad yo, :S i only speak english i never claimed to understand it enough to speak coherently lol

also nex2 i myself put about 4-8 hours in a day..even at that rate it took a good while to where i was very comfortable behind a set of turntables. just keep at it..alot of this stuff you have to discover on your own..but a good reference sight is www.djtutor.com

[whenyournex2me]

im aware of the site. and havent been there. though, ellaskins, who runs the site has many vids on youtube. and last year when i first found them i started to hsot hte links here.... maybe i should check otu the tutor site now. and see if there is more i can learn from him.

i do play everyday as well, but since i have been back from dallas, i have not taken my decks out of hte truck, im wanting to leave asap, and get nea mn for a month, and then back o the road for work till winter. i have debated on taking my stuff out today, and im still set on leaving it in there. cause i now when i get my check and the hotsheet ill be lookign for a new job in another area, i dont like rooamtes that eat my food, while im gone, and i dont care for the roomate that says, sure we got ya a job, and i come back, he says ahhh no man, we dont need ya.

sorry, lol

and english sucks lol, im just better at explaing things with my hands than words yo.

[Sylus]

Originally Posted by whenyournex2me

i have a poor quality mixer. the behringer djx700 to be exact.

lol i have the same mixer... it was great at first but honestly it isnt worth the money. i have just recently been having volume issues when i mix, hense why i havent posted any mixes up yet (that and my headphones snapped in half and are beyond repair). Once i get paid i will be getting a new mixer and headphones.

[whenyournex2me]

i made another mix but recorded it with differnet levels acrossed the board. i guess we'll see what ya all think, its short, but its just to see how it sounds... you all tell me,. plur!!!

no effex, no reds or yellows. i mastered it with wave pad sound editor. if the levels are good and i wont hear that crap on my mp3 player then i will be hosting more asap. plur

[whenyournex2me]

so the more i listen to different dj's mixes i see the mixes are very short, this makes me feel like an ass. cause when i started, i was mixing maybe half or less than each track together... and thats too much.

so the next time i make a mix, i will keep the mixes very short and hope to get a better response. thanks