[whenyournex2me]

thats basically it. i hope i can get alot of opinions and advise for this thread. so please feel free to drop your thoughts.

i have only been mixing records for a little over two years. and im sick of not doing what i want, what i feel i love, and having no residency. traveling with work sucks. but i have to live somehow. so, in all desperation to get OUT of my feild of work, im reaching out there to ALL the different groups in edm and on genxglow.

rather than asking others for the answer, but by learning myself, and doing the research myself, and extending a network through friends, i have made a very small buzz to some that i have met. but im doing things wrong again. its not big enough, and noone seems to want to commit as much as i. seriousness about music...

i want to ask, what is needed to get there? a dj and producer, throwing the events. it takes more than seeing others do it. and knowing what may be need to be done. im missing alot of things here. im getting no where i feel. im impatient maybe cause im almost 27, and i have been waisting enough time already. I WANT TO BE AN UNDERGROUND DJ!!!

im asking if anyone is wanting a companion for the music scene.
after making a good demo, and making hundreds of copies, i have to still extend a network. i had my laptop stolen in denver by some jackasses, and that has stalled me into waiting for more time and money.

are there any promoters on here? and are you willing to except a demo, and possibly book me to play for an event? i would be welcome to play as much as i can!!!!!! i cannot say this enough.

i have been through things that make up my musical judgment. meaning, you get out of me what ive been through, where and when. through my music. my experiences, and feelings. (feelings seem to be the biggest involvment in what i want to play) how i want to move people into feeling what i have. a journey... for sure.

i have played out a little. in tulsa i started at a local bar called mr luckys. also i have organized smaller parties and spun my heart out. i have had few negative comments and more positive comments. maybe its just cause of the music i play.

i hate welding for a job. do i need to go to school for recording and all that.? t oreally get a Boost!!??

how is it i hear so many djs out there, have a hard time beatmatching/mixing and dont get an even flow of continuity throughout their set, or the night.? i hear bad dj's, and they are where i want to be. i think if giving the chances i will surrpass my expectations, and evolve to be a one of a kind....

please share your heart with me on this. i only wish to learn more and become closer to the goal. music is life, my life is music

what must a brotha do?

[huntertrueblu]

Well, i've never tried to make it as a dj, but i have been around the block in the "normal" music bizz (for lack of a better word). If you have tons of money, than things are always alot simpler, you could buy your way in, throw epic party after epic party and youll get out there, lots of us dont have that kind of money, but i will say three things that are true for anything. Be willing to work harder than anyone els, get your chops up, you gotto be great, and also, spend just as much energy networking as you do working on your craft. the truest thing cuba gooding ever told me was, you cant sell a secret. it doesnt matter how good you are. and the third thing is, and this can go along with being great, do somthing that noone els does. It may be becoming a better scratcher than Qbert, It may be some kind of gimic you use for all your shows, idk, but having somthing that other people dont is always a good way to get noticed. so either do somthing new, or be better than anyone on the planet at somthing old. Thats just my two cents. Hope that helps, unfortunatly i dont have many contacts in the party/dj scene. I wish you the best of luck. OH one more thing, its deffinatly worth learning a bit about PR and Marketing. there was a book, i think it was called gorilla pr pr, its a great read. but anyway if you have flyers or tunes you made, anything, throw them up here and ill gladly spread them around. The internet is a wonderfull tool,get on the forums, get on youtube, get hits on myspace.

[whenyournex2me]

im aware this is going to take more time than i thought. and i spend most of my time on the net reading forums. and making friends that like the music and dance. although for networking, i dont sell myself, in anyway really. and i know that has to change. and im shy. that too has to change. it takes time to get to know the real me. that has to change.

i had a long talk with probably the only person i know thats in the scene deep. and we hung out before and never knew each others love for the music. i lastly heard three mix cd's he made, he gave me in denver before i left, last night. and i know hes more into it than i thought. anywho. hes trying to help. i have to get back to denver. after working here in out.

thanks for the advise. something different ey? like grand pumbas??? i love them guys dressed up in funny stuff all the time. i know what you mean. i heard that advise two years ago before i found out i want music... but still to this day dont know how to apply it in the right way for me or my personality. ill think of something.


anyone else have anythign to say????

i know the dj section doesnt have as much traffic here. but share your thoughtS!!
as soon as i get the demos made, ill have more of an understanding on where i want to go. judged by listening to them, i can think of weird things to do, or somthing unique!

[jareblue]

networking is all imprortant.. yea u have 2 b good, but it really is about who u know.. and yea, being shy doesn't help.. at least on the net u can still be semi-anonymous, but u gotta get it out there.. bookmark all the boards u can find and when u make mixes post them up EVERYWHERE.. make dj pages on myspace and plurspace and purerave and get that shit out there..

and when u go out talk to the djs/presenter/promoters and make friends,, it really isn't that hard to just go up and talk to them.. unless they're like pvd or tiesto or something mostly they're all just regular folk.. don't b afraid 2 approach these ppl.. and maybe even give em a cd.. self-promote!! ur probly gonna have 2 get a little shameless about it.. check the local city papers and find out which bars/clubs bring djs in and bring them promo mixes.. like hunter said u need to spend ust as much time networking as honing ur craft.. perhaps even more.. as i'm sure u know djing is madly competitive.. personally i think you've got the chops 2 do it.. now u gotta get serioulsy dedicated..

good luck dathan.. i may not be able to give much more than moral spport, but i'll definitely give it..

[Tredamit]

There's been good advice in these posts and I'm not trying to bring you down by no means but I don't know of many Dj's in this day and age that get by on Dj'ing alone it's all about production. So my advice to you is to pour all that passion into making really really good tunes. If you do that you will not have to look far for Dj gig's and doors will fly open for you.... Good luck my man ...Tre

[djsonar919]

The best advice I can give is to think outside the box, define your audience, and stay true to yourself. Remember, everybody is DJing or knows someone who DJ’s. What will you do differently than the next DJ to make yourself stand out? What are some of the DJ’s that you look up to doing that you are not doing? OMG I could go on for days with this…

[whenyournex2me]

good advise, thanx. although a huge problem right now, is work and time/location. soon ill have enough saved for a new computer to help be online more. and network.

and production is the key, imo. i know everyone djs but not produces. and being different in making music will help i think. i still dont have much time to write this, but i will soon enough. i will be persu this. i am persuin. lol just slower than i want. thanks guys. i still have to be patient, nad wait for work to get overwith. maybe take another job and save more,

[huntertrueblu]

being a great producer is " taken it to a hoe nother lebbel". It (obviously) is an artform of it's own. The more things you can do the better. the more self sufficient u are the better, my only warning is, make sure you dont spread youself too thin (idk what skill level you are now, so this is just an example) a passible producer and an okay dj. know what im saying? everything you have to do has to be great because usualy you only have one shot. but no pressure or anything *wink. Keep us posted with how your holding up! i cant wait to hear more from you! i wish ya tons of luck!

[burrow2010]

I want to mix; but I don't even own tables yet... SO I don't have ANY advice for you... but you have my support my man!!! good luck!! And while your at it, why don't you share some of that music on here? You can get ALOT of hits just from gxg members..... Plus I have been posting bulletins with links to some of our dj's music to get them out there... SO believe it if you DO post a mix I'll have my friends listenin to it within 24hrs!!!

[Taylor Norris]

Join the club my friend. I have been on the decks for 12 years now and only play "real" gigs occasionaly.

When I got into the scene around 95 raves were going off huge every weekend all around the mid-west. Getting gigs was EASY. I was in a different state every weekend, meeting new people, and there was no shortage of time slots to fill. Now the rave scene is non-existant and there really is NO club scene here in Indianapolis. Its tough.....

Back then you would build your reputation as a DJ and then fall into the production side because of the people you were assosiating with and that was "the next step". It is the exact opposite now. You cannot get your foot in the door as a DJ only. You must be putting out tracks for the recognition. Every one and their mother is a fckin DJ these days. Kids never have to touch vinyl, a turntable, or even a mixer for that matter to call themselves a DJ with all of the digital DJ programs available.

I could rant on and on but will try to sum it up. You must be involved in every aspect of the electronic music scene. DJ, audio engineer, promoter, marketing, business minded, computer wiz, PR dude, graphic design...and on and on.......

Whatever you do DONT GIVE UP!!! I do what I do for the love of what I do, not for what I do may give me in return.

I would love to hear some of your mixes. Hit me up on myspace. Its in my sig..... There are several mixes for download on my myspace page as well and Im always looking for feedback.

:may the force be with you: