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This is a discussion on modified inovas within the Freehand Discussion forums, part of the Glowsticking discussion category: couldnt have put it more simply there bro. thanks man. now i just need to place my order. im thinking ...

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couldnt have put it more simply there bro. thanks man. now i just need to place my order. im thinking bout doing two pink two blue and one purple on each hand. what you guys think?
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Check your radioshack, they ALWAYS carry bulbs...


As for the MCD rating...

That pretty much doesn't mean anything as long as they aren't under 1000 (which is what the bulbs that come with the Inovas are)

MCD is a measurement of the Luminous Intensity, and doesn't necessarily mean that it's going to be any brighter...


A higher MCD just makes the ray more intense, not brighter...


The bulbs that come with Inovas are 1000 MCD, and I got a pack of white bulbs that were 7000 MCD, and they are no brighter...

Like I said, it's a measurement of the intensity of the light ray being projected, not its' brightness... True that some higher mcd bulbs will be brighter than the same color at a lower mcd, but that is not an 'always true' thing... It does NOT measure brightness, it measures Luminous intensity, which blah blah, more big words talking about light particles, and what not, summing up its' the intensity...


To sum it up, they are usually not much brighter, so buying higher MCD bulbs is pointless, just stick to diff colors and, mcd wise, just make sure the rating is not below 1000, cuz you WILL notice a diff in below 1000...

Take a regular inova in a pitch black room and put it directly to your eye and turn it on for a sec, and then off, and switch on the lights, you will notice that you have a temporary small little blind spot, which last a few seconds and fades away with a few blinks... That's 1000 MCD...

Now take, as for my example, the SAME color at 7000 MCD, it's not brighter, but if you were to do the same thing, the blind spot is larger, and takes longer to fade away than the 1000 mcd bulb...

It's all pretty much backing up that it is a measurement of its' intensity, not its' brightness..


Sorry, I wasted a lot of money buying a fuck load of bulbs thinking higher MCD meant brighter bulbs, which this CAN be true, but it is not a set in stone rule...
um... a mcd is a rating of luminous intensity . 1 mcd is equivalent to to the light given off by 1 candle. higher mcd still appears "brighter" to the eye than a lower mcd. compare the crappy 15 mcd lights at radio shack to say a 5000 mcd light. big difference. too high of an mcd can damage the eye. most leds with a rating over 10k mcd have a warning on them.

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um... a mcd is a rating of luminous intensity . 1 mcd is equivalent to to the light given off by 1 candle. higher mcd still appears "brighter" to the eye than a lower mcd. compare the crappy 15 mcd lights at radio shack to say a 5000 mcd light. big difference. too high of an mcd can damage the eye. most leds with a rating over 10k mcd have a warning on them.

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Yeah...

I said there's a big diff between low numbers and high numbers...


But prety much once you get past 1000 MCD, they brightness difference isn't really noticeable that much, if at all, depending on your vision...

And also depending on the color because some colors are brighter than others...

So yes I agree, a 30MCD bulb and a 5000MCD bulb will have a considerable difference...

But once you get past about 1000 MCD, the change isn't very noticeable... After about 1000 rather than becoming brighter, they rays of light become more intense...


That is why as you said, ones over 10 thousand MCD come with a warning... It's not that it's so bright it'll blind you, it's that the Lumionous Intensity of the ray of light is SO strong, it can damage your retinas...


The luminous intensity is NOT the brightness of the light, it's the intensity of the ray... Now a very low MCD is soo weakly intensed, that a higher number will be WAY brighter...


But once you get around 1000 and up, it's merely how intense the particles of light are... Granted some colors do still get a tad brighter...


But the difference you notice in a 30 MCD bulb versus a 750 MCD bulb is MUCH more noticable and the difference in a 1000 MCD bulb versus a 7000 MCD bulb.

And then, I don't know all the proper terms so I'm not going to even try to explain, but after about 1000, the intensity is the way the particles of light and the number of them like... FUck...

okay... I'm about to go find a dictionary so I can make sure I use to right words, but I'll describe what it does...


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Yeah...

I said there's a big diff between low numbers and high numbers...


But prety much once you get past 1000 MCD, they brightness difference isn't really noticeable that much, if at all, depending on your vision...

And also depending on the color because some colors are brighter than others...

So yes I agree, a 30MCD bulb and a 5000MCD bulb will have a considerable difference...

But once you get past about 1000 MCD, the change isn't very noticeable... After about 1000 rather than becoming brighter, they rays of light become more intense...


That is why as you said, ones over 10 thousand MCD come with a warning... It's not that it's so bright it'll blind you, it's that the Lumionous Intensity of the ray of light is SO strong, it can damage your retinas...


The luminous intensity is NOT the brightness of the light, it's the intensity of the ray... Now a very low MCD is soo weakly intensed, that a higher number will be WAY brighter...


But once you get around 1000 and up, it's merely how intense the particles of light are... Granted some colors do still get a tad brighter...


But the difference you notice in a 30 MCD bulb versus a 750 MCD bulb is MUCH more noticable and the difference in a 1000 MCD bulb versus a 7000 MCD bulb.

And then, I don't know all the proper terms so I'm not going to even try to explain, but after about 1000, the intensity is the way the particles of light and the number of them like... FUck...

okay... I'm about to go find a dictionary so I can make sure I use to right words, but I'll describe what it does...
ok this explanation you gave is much clearer than the first one. but don't get it wrong there is still a noticeable difference between say 1000 and 10000. between like 1000 and 3000, it might not be as noticeable. and yes you are right it is intensity, but to most humans, it appears "brighter" that is just how most people would explain it. but you are correct. anything over like 7000 is usually unnecessary as it would just cause eye damage from long time exposure. i have found around 5000 seems to work best at events, still very bright, but not enough to really damage the eyes for a few minute lightshow.
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ok this explanation you gave is much clearer than the first one. but don't get it wrong there is still a noticeable difference between say 1000 and 10000. between like 1000 and 3000, it might not be as noticeable. and yes you are right it is intensity, but to most humans, it appears "brighter" that is just how most people would explain it. but you are correct. anything over like 7000 is usually unnecessary as it would just cause eye damage from long time exposure. i have found around 5000 seems to work best at events, still very bright, but not enough to really damage the eyes for a few minute lightshow.

Oh yeah... I'm sre I worded the first one wrong cuz I was trying to make sure I made clear what I found out and wasted money to find out...


I thought " Oh., Inovas are 1000 mcd... Well these white bulbs are 7000 MCD, so they must be 7 times as bright.'

And that's far from the truth... So I prolly worded it wrong in attempts to makes sure I made clear that it's FAR from 7 times brighter...




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